So this time the #MiniTasting gang received an interesting surprise in the post from @WhiskynStuff: a pair of unnamed drams and a blue Glencairn tasting glass! @ScotchB78 & @jwbassman_ and myself were in for a true blind tasting!
So what did we think of the Super Secret Mystery Comparison Drams?
Dram | SSMCD 1 | SSMCD 2 | |
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Appearance | |||
Nose | Brian | Blue in the glass, can't see any legs! Initial nose: orchard fruit. Agree with the earthy note, there's loads of apples, pears and a hint of honey. I'm wondering if that earthy note has a little bit of smoke or cask char in it? | Another lovely shade of blue with no visible legs when swirled! Initial nose: heather! A bit of an ABV bite, heather, tropical fruit and icing sugar. This one seems stronger than the first? |
John | Initial orchard fruits on the nose, also a touch of that icing sugar dry sweetness I seem to be finding a lot just recently and there's a floral, earthy note too... Getting a coffee note now 🤔 | Initially very fruity, tinned fruit syrup on the nose, also getting weetabix and dry straw… | |
Paul | Malty biscuits, fruity, quite fresh and minty? The apples and pears are there but its not spirity. Can I borrow John's note of earthy too? | Seems quite perfumed to me. Woody? Nuts! sugared almonds. | |
Scott | A Sweet shop, pear drops, Kola Kubes, Granny Smith apples , agree with @jwbassman_ that there is something earth like in the background. Also a bit of melon, maybe even watermelon Jolly Ranchers? | Woody, heather honey, something mossy or grass like. | |
Palate | Brian | Quite thick and syrupy, loads of orchard fruit from the nose, a little sweetness and a hint of spice - nice. Not getting any of the smoke/char notes I got on the nose. This is a fruity little number with a chocolatey note. | This is even thicker than 1, lots of spice on the tongue offset with a little sweetness. |
John | The arrival is quite dry, almost bitter, that over-roasted coffee note from the nose continues into the palate. Malty and quite cereal too, not much sweetness here at all. | A little more about this one, spicier and drying, coats the palate well. | |
Paul | Malty, honey, abit of porridge in there to. Tiny bit of red fruits? Digestives. And if we are ready to move to the Finish, whats it like? | Wood spice, fruity and sweet. A bit malty as well. | |
Scott | Gentle arrival, no real alcohol burn, pears, apples, honey, Slightly spicy, decent mouthfeel. Not thick but not thin either. | Spirit forward, dry, spicy, moving to a lot of oak. Lovely mouthfeel | |
Finish | Brian | Medium length, fruity, a little spice and a hint of sweetness - Nice! | Drying, with a lovely balance of sweetness and spice - more of the heather from the nose and a little fruit. |
John | Quite a decent finish but slightly drying and that bitterness lingers... there is a very slight sweetness hiding in there somewhere but it's struggling to fight its way out. It’s a very decent dram, feels pretty grown-up, sophisticated? | Quite drying into the finish and a nice little spicy kick too. Again this is a very decent dram, it feels a little more approachable than the first dram, maybe a little less complex but seems to have more texture. | |
Paul | Mediumish length. Wood spice, oh a slight sweetness as it goes away, quite earthy though. | Quite long. Woody, getting the nuts again. and a nice sweetness. I like it. | |
Scott | Stewed apples, grapefruit sourness but with some drying icing sugar too. | Dry, bitter vermouth like, I'm getting a lot of heather on the finish. Nice dram |
Thoughts | Brian | My preference would be for dram 2, it nosed and tasted like a higher ABV dram and much more complex than dram 1. Saying that there was nothing wrong with dram 1 more of a daily drinker rather than an 'occasion' dram. I'm not sure if I've tried #1 before but I'm sure I haven't had #2 before, I think SSMCD1 : 10yo 40%, SSMCD2 : 18yo 48% I think at this stage, not having 'seen' the liquid made an interesting experience, having one of your key senses blocked off makes you rely more on your others. I think #1 is an @aerstonewhisky Sea Cask, I don't know about #2 it sort of points me to the Highlands with the heather notes. |
John | They are both good but they are different, #1 is more complex #2 is more approachable. Not sure... probably 😆 Yes, enjoyed them both for different reasons. They are pretty decent, would certainly have a second dram, but not sure I'd be buying a full bottle. Is dram #1 a blend? No idea on dram #2 I think SSMCD1 : 46% NAS and SSMCD2 : 46% 6yo? Guessing... I'm going Glen Keith for the first one and maybe Balblair for the second? | |
Scott | Both are good drams.. #2 is more complex and challenging possibly due to a Higher ABV, whereas #2 is a bit of a straightforward and entry like for me. Think i may have had #1 but not #2. Guessing Dram #1 is 12-15 yr old 43% with Dram #2 8-10 years old 46 -48%. Wild guess #1 Something from Speyside. Glenfarclas 10? #2 Tomintoul? |
Dram | Glengoyne 10yo | Clen Denny 2007 (Douglas McGibbon) An independent bottling of Glengoyne 10yo | |
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Characteristics | 40% Matured in Sherry Casks from European and American Oak | 48% Single Cask, matured in a Refill Hogshead | |
Distillery info | Smooth, fruity and incredibly moreish. Fresh green apples, toffee and a hint of nuttiness. This is the taste of distilling slower than anyone else in Scotland, of barley we dry by air – never peat – and of hand-selected sherry casks crafted from European and American oak. | Opens with a fresh fruit character on the nose and the sweetness is balanced with a citric zesty quality. The palate remains sweet and develops to a crisp Malty and gently spiced character. The finish is medium-long, still softly spiced with more of that fruity sweetness . | |
Appearance | |||
Light gold in the glass, swirls fall as slow thin legs. | Very pale gold in the glass, swirls fall as slow thin legs. | ||
Final thoughts | Brian | The fruit is much more noticeable in dram 2, maybe a different size cask? But it's interesting that it was just ex-bourbon whereas dram 1 had some sherry influence! | |
John | Ok, cool to have both from same distillery, matured in different places and different recipes/casks - highlights the difference between OB and Indie bottlings too. I've had tried the @Glengoyne 10yo but it was a long time ago, so may well be different these days. I think the most important factor here is the ABV, in dram #2 the spirit hasn't been impacted by the wood so much and the higher AVB carries the fruity flavours better. | ||
Paul | The big question - Can you taste the distillery character/How strongly can you the taste distillery character, after 10 years in a “low influence” cask? | ||
Scott | IMHO distillery character can only be defined or detected if the cask does not have too much of an influence. |
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